Archive:Glacier School 2010

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Date

September 18th - 19th, 2010

Mandatory dry school on Wed September 15th at 6:30pm location TBC (likely BUCH B315)

General Information

What is Glacier School?

Glacier School is a 2-day (weekend) course intended to teach safe and efficient means of travelling over glaciers. The school is divided into two courses:

  1. Glacier 1 is designed for beginners to snow and glacier travel. It is expected that you have previous backpacking and camping experience.
  2. Glacier 2 is for students with previous glacier experience that want to learn more advanced skills or to climb a peak.

Expectations

The point of G1 is to give students enough basic skills that they are not a total liability as a member of a 3 (or more) person glacier rope team, such that more experienced members may feel comfortable trusting their life to them on a rope. For more detailed information check out the info booklet.

The prerequisites for being a student at glacier school are minimal: Students must have overnight backpacking experience, a good attitude, and good general fitness. Some rope skills (such as belaying, common climbing knots, etc) are desirable but not absolutely necessary. In order to cram it all into one weekend we will be on the move all day regardless of the weather - please be prepared for that.

Sign up early as group size will be limited to ensure low student/instructor ratio and minimal environmental impact

Instructors for glacier school are club members who volunteer their time, and are not professional guides, nor are they certified by any recognized school or association. If you don't feel comfortable taking responsibility for your own life in the context of an informal course facilitated by these VOC instructors, you should take a mountaineering course offered by a professional guiding service.

How much does it cost?

The instructors at glacier school are all volunteers, but there are still minor expenses that need to be covered like the glacier school manual you will receive a copy of at Dry school. Also you will need to pay your driver gas money, which can vary depending on how many people you are in the car and what kind of car it is (See the Driver reimbursement guidelines. If you need to borrow gear from the clubroom a deposit is needed, but this will be returned to you again when you return the gear. Please bring CASH for all expenses (preferably small change). Prussik cords and the VOC expenses need to be paid at the dryschool, gas money are paid to your driver on the trip and gear deposit needs to be paid when you pick up your gear either during gear hours or at dryschool.

At the dryschool: $10 for two prussik cords, unless you already have them. (please specify if you are bringing your own on the signup)
$10-15(TBD) for VOC expenses: Photocopying/booklet, beverages, poo bags, donation to the Flavelles, etc.

On the trip: $25 typical gas money, negotiated with your driver.

Whenever you pick up your gear $0-200 deposit for borrowing club gear, depending how much you need, refundable when the gear is returned.

If the club runs out of gear you may need to rent from MEC or elsewhere.

Who do I ask questions to?

Veenstra is running this trip. If, after reading the glacier school wiki and handout, you can't find an answer to your question you should email him about it. There's also some useful general information about the club, membership, and how the club works on the Faq, which is worth a read.

What Do I Need?

Clothes

  • 1 set of non-cotton clothes (the one on your back)
  • 1 additional warm thing (fleece / down jacket)
  • water proof pants and jacket (even if the weather is supposed to be good)
  • toque (best warmth/weight ratio going for clothing)
  • gloves
  • boots
  • sun hat
  • gaiters

Shelter

  • Tent (or be friendly with someone who has one)
  • sleeping bag (a summer bag is probably good, depending how warm you think you sleep. 0C or warmer)
  • sleeping pad

Miscellaneous

  • Burly container / outer bag for carrying poo bags (smell resistance recommended)
  • Sunscreen
  • Headlamp
  • lip balm
  • sunglasses
  • camera
  • bug net (works way better than bug juice, plus it doesn't wreck the environment or your stuff)
  • Toilet Paper
  • Toothbrush
  • Lighter
  • Bearspray (optional - with such a large, probably noisy, group I'd be highly surprised if any self-respecting bear would go anywhere near us)

Gear

  • ice axe
  • crampons (which fit boots! Bring your boots and crampons to dryschool if you need help)
  • climbing harness
  • helmet
  • prussiks (you can buy these at the dry school)
  • 2 non-locking and 2 locking carabiners

Food

  • stove + pot + fuel + lighter (or be friendly)
  • Plastic thing to eat out of (old yogurt container? Or something fancier)
  • spoon
  • Lunch, Dinner, Breakfast, Lunch (food groups will be arranged at dry school)
  • Water (ability to carry 2L, unless you know otherwise).
  • Water purifier drops (if you're into that)

Luxury

  • songbook
  • down slippers for camp, aka booties, other lightweight footwear, such as "Crocs" may be appropriate luxury items
  • instrument

Pack

And a pack to put it all in.


The VOC has some of the technical gear and will lend it out to students for a minor deposit. See gear list for details. You can borrow gear from the VOC any day during gear hours or after dry school. If there’s not enough VOC rental gear to go around, some borrowing, or renting from MEC will have to fill the voids. Please reserve rental gear early to ensure the gear you need will be available for the weekend.


If you don't have a tent or a stove, don't worry... food and tent groups will be arranged at dry school.

Locations

Glacier 1

Location for G1 is confirmed as the anniversary glacier:

Anniversary Glacier / Cerise Creek.

Directions

UBC to Cerise Creek Parking lot (off Hwy 99). The pullout is located 7.5km (check your odometer) past the Joffre Lakes parking lot.

Glacier 2

TBD based on conditions and participants

Dry School (Mandatory!)

The dry school is mandatory, so if you don't show up to the dry school, you will lose you spot on the trip and someone on the waitlist will get the chance to learn about glaciers instead of you.

When and Where?

Wednesday, September 15th @ 6:30pm location TBC

What Happens at Dry School?

There will be a brief introduction to glacier travel before we outline what’s to be expected for the weekend. Then, we’ll arrange transportation, stove and tent groups, collect your fees, sell prussik cords, lend out VOC gear. Finally we'll review knots then put on our harnesses and practice prusiking up ropes (either in a stairwell or up trees). Read the info booklet ahead of time!

What do I Need to Bring to Dry School?

Glacier 1 students (and others wishing to practise crevasse rescue), please bring your harnesses, biners and prussiks (unless you're buying them at dryschool). You will receive a copy of the info booklet, and are expected to have read it ahead of time.

IMPORTANT: Also bring your boots and crampons to ensure they are adjusted correctly if you have not done so previously or are unsure.


Sign up

Only sign up for 1 of G1 or G2 - if you are suitable for G2 you are not suitable for G1

Instructor List

Email Veenstra if you want to be on one of these lists. Instructor numbers may be limited too.

G1:

  1. Christian Veenstra
  2. Line Lund Christiansen
  3. Scott Webster
  4. Kristen Brewer
  5. Mike Duncan
  6. Eliza Boyce
  7. Shahbaz Tabyanian (probably, must still confirm)
  8. Todd Mackenzie
  9. Roland
  10. Josh Zukewich
  11. hopefully 1 more...

G2:

  1. Christian Champagne
  2. Geoffrey Martin

Student G1 sign up

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Current limit for G1 is 30 students. Please specify if you're bringing your own prusik cord so we don't waste club money buying it for you.

  1. Phil Tomlinson (gets to be on the list in advance since he's out of town and can't compete in the signup rush, yet runs the club and somehow still doesn't know anything about glacier travel)
  2. Victoria Alfred (with Phil. These people will be running lots of trips for you over the coming year)
  3. Jen Neve needs a prusik cord
  4. Derry Lappin need prusik cord
  5. Brett Riley need prusik cord
  6. Gwyn Thomas need prusik cord
























Current limit for G1 is 30 students. Please specify if you're bringing your own prusik cord so we don't waste club money buying it for you.

G1 Waiting List

Priority will be to people in the following list first if any participants above drop out or fail to show up to dryschool. Please only put your name down once on this page, you can't sign up for both G1 and G2. If you are qualified for G2, you are not suitable for G1.

Come to Dry School!!! Wait list people can usually be accommodated at Dry School.

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Student G2 signup

This course is for people who have taken Glacier 1 or have previous glacier skills, but aren't fully comfortable route finding on a glacier. This group will work on more advanced skills or climb a nearby peak with an experienced leader. Probably at a different location than G1


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Current limit is 10











G2 Waitlist

Priority will be to people in the following list first if any participants above drop out or fail to show up to dryschool. Please only put your name down once on this page, you can't sign up for both G1 and G2. If you are qualified for G2, you are not suitable for G1.

Come to Dry School!!! Wait list people can usually be accommodated at Dry School.

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