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Main article: Winter Longhike

Everything is different when you go into the backcountry in the winter; that's why there is Winter Longhike, an introductory trip for winter camping. This is usually a big trip with lots of keen people aboard who want to get out, learn some new skills, and sleep in their very own snow shelter while still managing to have fun too. It's an easy, beginner friendly trip, so if you've never even seen snow before you can still have a good time. Other fun activities that often happen at Winter Longhike are a cooking competition, sing alongs, and the occasional great ski run on Sunday.

Past destinations have included:

  • Red Heather Meadows in Garibaldi Park
  • Fat Dog Creek in Manning Park
  • Falls Lake (Coquihalla)
  • Mt. Seymour

Christian Veenstra is organizing this trip, but it would be best to post on the message board.


January 8th - 9th, 2011

Pre-trip Meeting

Date: Wednesday, January 5th, 2011
Location: BUCH A202
Time: 6:00pm

You are kidding yourself if you think Veestra has time to arrange personal details for you - there will likely be 100 people on this trip! At the pre-trip we will be covering some winter camping basics and arranging rides. You will also have the opportunity to interact with other VOCers and arrange snowcave groups and food groups at the pre-trip... If you absolutely can't make it, find somebody to represent you and make sure they have enough information to do so!

If you've sorted all this stuff out on your own that's fine. Email Veenstra and let him know you're coming, so we have an idea of the numbers and buy the correct number of poo bags.

  • Note: This is all basically up to your driver, but we will be encouraging the pre-pay system for this trip. In order to ensure drivers are fairly and appropriately reimbursed even with flaky passengers, we are asking all passengers to bring the money for their driver to the pre-trip meeting. This will avoid the need to split up costs at the end of the trip and drivers won't have to worry about driving up with an empty car if their passengers bail. Check out this page to get an idea of the costs of taking a car on a VOC trip. The exact amount to be paid will be up to the discretion of each driver. Count on something like $5 per passenger, since we're not going too far.


  • Overview
  • Go over winter camping basics
  • Go over how not to make an ass of yourself
  • Arrange car groups
  • Arrange snow cave groups
  • Arrange food-sharing groups


The location will be at Mount Seymour Provincial Park, this is outside the ski resort area so it's free. We will meet at the backcountry access kiosk - this is at the North-West corner of the highest parking lot (the "far left" when looking at the resort). The main group will be departing this location at 9:15am, if you're not there on time navigation is up to you.

Getting there: driving

Google maps directions from UBC. But if you're not coming from UBC I'm sure you can figure it out, in these days of the internet. Not including driving around hell's half-acre to pick up all your passengers it is an 80 km round trip.

We will be meeting at the NW end (ie keep going to the very end) of the highest parking lot, since this is where the backcountry access begins - however you must not park in the upper lot. Overnight parking is in the lower lot, the one with the sign which says "overnight parking" (you can drop off gear and then go park, if you like). If you park in the upper lot you may end up with your vehicle towed, search and rescue called, or both.

Getting there: bus

If you can't get a ride it is possible to take a shuttle bus to the mountain, and translink to where the shuttle bus leaves. Information on the Mt. Seymour shuttle bus is here. To arrive on time you will need to take the 8:30 bus from Parkgate Village (the bottom of the hill). Translink's trip planner is here, but does not support linking directly to search results so you'll have to figure that out yourself.

Getting there: hiking

From the backcountry access kiosk we will be heading along the backcountry access corridor beside the resort - it generally goes up just to climber's left of the outside ski run and is well marked. Once past the edge of the resort we will be following the wanded route maintained by BC parks into the backcountry. Pay attention to the wands - this is a popular spot and there are a lot of people breaking lots of trails to a lot of random locations in this area (and many into possibly dangerous terrain). However, only two of these well-trodden paths will have 2 meter tall orange wands every few meters - we are taking one of the wanded routes (the one marked "Mount Seymour Backcountry Access trail", the other route takes a bit of a detour and visits "first lake"). Don't just follow the boots in front of you - use your own brain and pay attention to where you're going!

Camp will be set up not far off the wanded route, in the meadows SE of First Pump Peak. We will have some of our own wands along the route where you split off - or just notice the massive group of people building snow caves.

Equipment List


In winter especially, none of your clothing should be made out of cotton. Anything synthetic is safe. Just remember, Cotton Kills.

  • burly overcontainer for your poo bag (pack it in - pack it out!)
  • sleeping pad, or two, if you have them.
  • sleeping bag (rated for winter, or 3 season if you sleep warm)
  • garbage bags (2-3)
  • warm jacket (fleece or down)
  • warm pants (fleece or thick long underwear)
  • long underwear
  • layers (fleece or wool sweaters)
  • toque, mitts (2 pairs, or a set of waterproof shells)
  • warm socks (2 pairs, wool/wool mix)
  • waterproof jacket (goretex or coated nylon)
  • waterproof pants (goretex or coated nylon)
  • gaiters
  • cup, bowl, spoon, knife
  • good waterproof boots (wax them before the trip) or ski boots
  • skis and skins if skiing, or snowshoes, or even just boots if you can't get skis or snowshoes
  • ski poles (useful even if you only bring boots)
  • toothbrush etc.
  • sunscreen and sunglasses (we can hope, right?)
  • water bottle (1L)
  • lunch, snacks, breakfast, dinner contribution (in winter you will need 2500-3500 calories per day, fat-rich stuff keeps you warm)
  • headlamp
  • gas money for your driver
  • camera if you want

If you want to go skiing on Sunday before heading out to the cars, make sure to bring:

  • avalanche transceiver
  • shovel
  • probe
  • you don't need avalanche gear to ski down the road to the car, but you might want to do practice rescues.
  • goggles and helmet if that's your thing

If you happen to own them and the forecast looks icy you might also bring:

  • crampons
  • ice axe

Small Group

3-4 people per group, organized at trip meeting along with car groups

  • shovels (1-2)
  • probe (to find trees before you dig the cave)
  • stove + fuel + lighter (you'd be surprised how often one of these stays home). If using white gas, for each person bring 150 mL.
  • pots

Big Group


  • first aid kits (2)
  • song books (4)
  • snow saw
  • maps, compass, etc

Interested people

Remember that writing your name here does not ensure you get on the trip. Come to the pre-trip meeting. There is no limit on the numbers for this trip.

  1. Veenstra
  2. Stephanie Grothe
  3. Clemens Adolphs
  4. Gwyn Thomas
  5. Marcin Mirski
  6. Derry Lappin
  7. Phil Tomlinson
  8. Vicky Alfred
  9. Conrad Koziol
  10. Mariya Skvortsova
  11. Caitlin Schneider
  12. Michael Duncan
  13. Riley Patterson
  14. Julia Macdonald
  15. Andrew Primavera
  16. Sam Mckoy
  17. Christopher Yearwood
  18. Matt Parisien
  19. Laura Morrison
  20. Katherine Valentine
  21. Shuvi (shuval haramati)
  22. Charlie Beard
  23. Champagne
  24. Michael Uhlmann
  25. Christina Schaldecker
  26. Yanna Martinek
  27. Nisan Haramati
  28. Aidan Campbell
  29. Laurent Roberge
  30. Anthea Song
  31. Tessa Terbasket
  32. Chantelle Chan
  33. Kathrin Lang
  34. Lea Schanz
  35. Dave Perez
  36. Chester Hitz
  37. Scott MacPherson
  38. Cara McCulloch
  39. Annie Maurer
  40. Noriko Okamoto
  41. Skyler
  42. Nastassia Koenig
  43. Rebecca Abernethy
  44. Daniel Schweizer
  45. Shelly Fan
  46. Sophia Phillips
  47. Emily Payne
  48. Geoffrey Martin
  49. Mrs. Veenstra
  50. Carolyn Prentice
  51. Len Goff
  52. Anna Szeitz
  53. Ran Z
  54. Eva K
  55. Evgeny Sorkin
  56. Chelsea E
  57. Liz K
  58. Ashley Smith
  59. Daniel Joseph
  60. Tera Holmes
  61. Cameroon Bathgate
  62. Sida Zhou
  63. Piotr Forysinski
  64. Amelia Hardjasa
  65. Shane Duan
  66. Rebecca B
  67. Phoebe Wong
  68. Justin Lau
  69. Tom Curran
  70. Dan Eagen
  71. Ryan Mckenzie
  72. Murray Down
  73. Rick Havlak
  74. Jennifer Y
  75. Alex Annejohn
  76. Sebastian Max
  77. Bieke Gils
  78. Claire Bouffard
  79. Nicole Ong
  80. Jeff Taylor
  81. Martin Matej
  82. Christian Sampaleanu
  83. Maddy Doherty
  84. Emily Ackroyd
  85. Shasta Coombes
  86. Anthony Melnick
  87. Nick M
  88. Steve Mullen
  89. Aisling Smyth
  90. Roland Burton + tent. Come on, let's try for 100 people!
  91. Jenny Tan
  92. Aron Zahradka
  93. Julia Stafford
  94. Ali Mackeller
  95. Nikki Urdle
  96. Claire Haddock
  97. Fisal Elstone