Archive:16Aug2008 Garibaldi

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The Plan

As seen on the message board the plan is to circumnavigate Garibaldi Lake in the clockwise direction, staying at the Sphinx Hut. To get to the hut, we may go over Panorama Ridge and/or Gentian Peak or the Helm Glacier and Gentian Pass depending on the groups energy level. Exiting from Sphinx Bay there are two options - either via Guard Pass or Sphinx Pass. We're hoping to go over Sphinx pass, but will let group energy decide.

We'll meet at the Rubble Creek parking lot. It's marked by huge signs which say something along the lines of "Garibaldi Park, Black Tusk" and located just after the Chance Creek turnoff (for Brew Hut).

All drivers will have picked up their last passenger and be en route heading over the Lions Gate Bridge at 6:30am

If you've been on a few trips, nothing too serious, but are reasonably fit (or at least very tough) and own (or can borrow - maybe from the club) the gear you need, this is the trip for you. If you're wondering whether or not this is the trip for you, go ahead and email Veenstra or post on the message board. The idea is for the trip to be pretty cool without requiring any special skills (maybe you'll even get a chance to learn, or at least find out about, some of these special skills).

Trip Meeting

The trip meeting was at Wednesday the 13th - 8:00pm, at (presumably) Frisbee (Jericho beach at Tolmie). If you know what you're doing and can't come that's OK - just make sure you have a ride. If you don't know what you're doing, then you should really try and come.


We'll be staying in a hut, so no tent is required. A sleeping bag and pad are needed, but they don't have to be particularly warm.

There will still be snow in the mountains, but it should be settled out enough that avalanches are not a concern and skis/snowshoes would be more pain than they are worth. What you will want for sure is a good pair of boots (with a reasonably stiff sole so you can walk easily on snow), ski poles (or trekking poles) and maybe a pair of gaiters.

Likely it will also be hot, and quite sunny - so suncreen, sunglasses, a hat and a bandanna are a really good idea. On snowy terrain it is possible to go painfully close to snow-blind in a weekend without sunglasses.

We're also bringing some glacier kit, and may go over the Helm glacier and/or Sphinx Pass.

Other stuff includes (list reserves the right to be amended):


  • 1 set of non-cotton clothes (just the one on your back)
  • 1 additional warm thing (fleece / down jacket)
  • rainjacket / pants (if it is supposed to rain. Otherwise a nice light breathable softshell would be better)
  • toque (best warmth/weight ratio going for clothing)
  • gloves
  • boots
  • sun hat
  • gaiters


  • sleeping bag (a summer bag is probably good, depending how warm you think you sleep)
  • sleeping pad


  • Sunscreen
  • Headlamp
  • lip balm
  • sunglasses
  • camera
  • bug net (works way better than bug juice, plus it doesn't wreck the environment or your stuff)
  • Toilet Paper
  • Toothbrush
  • Lighter
  • Bearspray (optional - with such a large, probably noisy, group I'd be highly surprised if any self-respecting bear would go anywhere near us)
  • Emergency supplies (Veenstra will have all this stuff with him, but if you want to bring some of your own, particularly moleskin, that's OK. Not bringing any is also OK - there will be enough to go around)
    • First Aid
      • moleskin
      • Vitamin I (Ibuprofen)
      • climbing tape (for an overnight trip these three things are probably all you really need)
      • bandages
      • gauss
      • prep pads
      • tensor bandage
      • extra ziplock for bloody gross prep pads / guass
    • Repair Kit (you can fix almost anything with these things for a short trip)
      • Duct tape
      • Stainless steel wire
      • Length of 2mm chord
      • Miniature pliers/cutters/knife with file


  • ski/trekking poles (poles are highly awesome for hiking. I can't recommend bringing poles enough)
  • ice ax (if desired, or going over Sphinx)
  • crampons (if going over Sphinx) (which fit boots!)
  • climbing harness (if going over Sphinx)
  • locking 'biner (if going over Sphinx)
  • rope (or be one of 6 friends with someone who has one)
  • helmet


  • stove + pot + fuel + lighter (or be friendly)
  • Plastic thing to eat out of (old yogurt container? Or something fancier)
  • spoon
  • Lunch, Dinner, Breakfast, Lunch - remember you'll be on the move all day, so bring extra lunch for Sunday. Eat extra breakfast (which you then don't have to carry on your back) before heading out Saturday morning.
    • Most people can eat somewhat under 1kg of food per day (we're talking dehydrated food - no heavy water). Veenstra eats way more than most people and usually brings 250grams/breakfast, 400-500grams/lunch+snacks, 250-350grams/dinner+dessert.
  • Water (ability to carry 2 - 3L, depending on your size).
  • Water purifier drops (optional)


(some things might be worth their extra weight, including):

  • songbook
  • 1 pair extra socks
  • down slippers for camp
  • tin whistle / recorder / Ukulele
  • Alcohol
  •  ?


And a pack to put it all in. Remember - stuff is heavy, so don't bring too much stuff! If you show up with a pack larger than 50L, Christian will tear it apart in the parking lot looking for extra weight.


Coming for sure

  1. Veenstra, Christian (have rope)
  2. Veenstra, Line (have rope)
  3. Ran Z
  4. Colin V
  5. Anne Webster
  6. Matthew Carroll
  7. Laura Morrison (no glacier skills yet)
  8. Joanna Kolakowska
  9. Frances Sharpe (in need of skills)
  10. Mike Danilov
  11. Anne Vialettes
  12. Ben Singleton-Polster (chicks like guys with crevasse rescue skills)
  13. Scott "glaciers cause heaviness" Webster
  14. Martin Pajchel

Maybe not coming

These people weren't at the meeting and don't have a car or a rope team. If they (or anybody else from the VOC) still wants to come, they need to email Veenstra, sort that out, then switch lists.

Car/Food/Rope groups

Is it ever too early to start organizing?

Car Groups

Maybe people will post their cars and allow signup in advance! Remember that this is purely for organization and just because you add your name, this doesn't mean you will be picked up. Make sure and get confirmation directly from your driver by phone or email.

Colin (leaving Marpole and picking up in westside/kits/point grey)

  1. Ran Z
  2. Anne V
  3. Mike D
  4. Joanna K

The Veenstra Car

  1. Christian V
  2. Line V
  3. Ben SP
  4. Frances S
  5. Matthew C

Websters' Car

  1. Scott Webster
  2. Anne Webster
  3. Laura Morrison (will arrange with Scott)
  4. Martin Pajchel (will also arrange with Scott)

Food Groups

Looking for someone to share dinner/stove/pots with? Post your desires here! If you've already sorted yourself out you don't need to tell the world, unless you really want to.

Rope Groups

I want to put lots of people on the same rope. This means that if someone does manage to fall into a crevasse the rest of the people won't need any special skills other than friction and body mass to keep them from disappearing forever.

Rope 1


  1. Veenstra, Christian (have rope)
  2. Veenstra, Line (have rope)

Quasi Experienced:

  1. Ran Z
  2. Joanna Kolakowska

Not Experienced:

  1. Colin V
  2. Laura Morrison (no glacier skills yet)
  3. Martin Pajchel

Rope 2


  1. Matthew Carroll
  2. Ben Singleton-Polster (chicks like guys with crevasse rescue skills)
  3. Scott "glaciers cause heaviness" Webster

Quasi Experienced:

  1. Mike Danilov

Not Experienced:

  1. Anne Webster
  2. Frances Sharpe (in need of skills)
  3. Anne Vialettes