Archive:Glacier School 2015

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Glacier 2 and Glacier 1 will happen on :August 29th - 30th, 2015 and September 12th - 13th, 2015, respectively.

NOTE: MANDATORY: Pre-Trip Meeting and Dry School for all participants of G1. Location and time: Wednesday Sept. 9th, 6:00pm at Henry Angus 435 and 7:00pm at the Aviary respectively.

General Information

What is Glacier School?

Glacier School is a 2-day (weekend) course intended to teach safe and efficient means of travelling over glaciers. The school is divided into two courses:

  1. Glacier 1 is designed for beginners to snow and glacier travel. It is expected that you have previous backpacking and camping experience.
  2. Glacier 2 is for students with previous glacier experience that want to learn more advanced skills or to climb a peak.


The goal of G1 is to give students enough basic skills that they are not a total liability as a member of a 3 (or more) person glacier rope team, such that more experienced members may feel comfortable trusting their life to them on a rope. For more detailed information check out the info booklet.

The prerequisites for being a student at Glacier School are minimal: Students must have overnight backpacking experience, a good attitude, and good general fitness. Some rope skills (such as belaying, common climbing knots, etc) are desirable but not absolutely necessary. In order to fit it all into one weekend, we will be on the move all day regardless of the weather - please be prepared for that.

Sign up early as group size will be limited to ensure low student/instructor ratio and minimal environmental impact

Instructors for glacier school are club members who volunteer their time, and are not professional guides, nor are they certified by any recognized school or association. If you don't feel comfortable taking responsibility for your own life in the context of an informal course facilitated by these VOC instructors, you should take a mountaineering course offered by a professional guiding service.

How much does it cost?

The instructors at glacier school are all volunteers, but there are still minor expenses that need to be covered like the glacier school manual you will receive a copy of at Dry school. Also you will need to pay your driver gas money, which can vary depending on how many people you are in the car and what kind of car it is (See the Driver reimbursement guidelines. If you need to borrow gear from the clubroom a deposit is needed, but this will be returned to you again when you return the gear. Please bring CASH for all expenses (preferably small change). Prussik cords and the VOC expenses need to be paid at the dryschool, gas money are paid to your driver on the trip and gear deposit needs to be paid when you pick up your gear either during gear hours or at dryschool.

At the dryschool:

$10 for two prussik cords, unless you already have them. (please specify if you are bringing your own on the signup)
$5 for VOC expenses: Photocopying/booklet, beverages, poo bags, etc.

On the trip: $25 typical gas money, negotiated with your driver.

Whenever you pick up your gear $0-200 deposit for borrowing club gear, depending how much you need, refundable when the gear is returned.

If the club runs out of gear you may need to rent from MEC or elsewhere.

Who do I ask questions to?

Zack is running this trip. If, after reading the glacier school wiki and handout, you can't find an answer to your question you could email him about it - but better yet post on the Message Board, then everybody who has the same question can also read it. There's also some useful general information about the club, membership, and how the club works on the Faq, which is worth a read if you're unfamiliar.

What Do I Need?


  • 1 set of non-cotton clothes (the one on your back)
  • 1 additional warm thing (fleece / down jacket. Maybe a 2nd fleece and some long-johns, for the evening)
  • water proof pants and jacket (even if the weather is supposed to be good - being dragged through the snow is wet)
  • toque (best warmth/weight ratio going for clothing. Maybe a 2nd toque, since it's lighter than a 2nd fleece)
  • gloves
  • boots
  • sun hat
  • gaiters


  • Tent (or be friendly with someone who has one)
  • sleeping bag (a summer bag is probably good, depending how warm you think you sleep. 0C or warmer)
  • sleeping pad
  • A tarp for hanging out under while eating dinner wouldn't be the worst idea in the world, if you own one already


  • Burly container / outer bag for carrying poo bags (smell resistance recommended)
  • Sunscreen
  • Headlamp
  • lip balm
  • sunglasses
  • camera
  • bug net (works way better than bug juice, plus it doesn't wreck the environment or your stuff)
  • Toilet Paper
  • Toothbrush
  • Lighter
  • Bearspray (optional - with such a large, probably noisy, group I'd be highly surprised if any self-respecting bear would go anywhere near us)


  • ice axe
  • crampons (which fit boots! Bring your boots and crampons to dryschool if you need help)
  • climbing harness
  • helmet
  • prussiks (you can buy these at the dry school)
  • 2 locking carabiners (best if one big and one small) and 2 non-locking (or more locking)
  • you can bring more junk, if you like. Sometimes it's the most fun to learn with your own gear
  • trekking poles, if you like, make hiking easier and are worth the weight


  • stove + pot + fuel + lighter (or be friendly)
  • Plastic thing to eat out of (old yogurt container? Or something fancier)
  • spoon
  • Lunch, Dinner, Breakfast, Lunch (food groups will be arranged at dry school)
  • Water (ability to carry 2L, unless you know otherwise).
  • Water purifier drops (if you're into that)


  • songbook
  • down slippers for camp, aka booties, other lightweight footwear, such as "Crocs" may be appropriate luxury items
  • instrument


And a pack to put it all in.

The VOC has some of the technical gear and will lend it out to students for a minor deposit. See gear list for details. You can borrow gear from the VOC any day during gear hours or at the gear 'rental' rotation of Dry School. If there’s not enough VOC rental gear to go around, some borrowing, or renting from MEC will have to fill the voids. Please reserve rental gear early to ensure the gear you need will be available for the weekend.

If you don't have a tent or a stove, don't worry... food and tent groups will be arranged at dry school.


Glacier 1

Easton Glacier via Railroad Grade (Mt. Baker, WA, United States)

Glacier 2

Anniversary Glacier via Cerise Creek.

Pre-Trip Meeting (Mandatory!)

The pre-trip meeting is mandatory, so if you don't show up to the meeting or have your friend represent you, you will not be allowed to attend the trip on the weekend. The goal of this meeting will be to figure out who all from the Signup list is 'Going;' handle logistics such as: food groups, car groups, instructional groups, and tent groups; as well as give a general mountaineering primer for the risks and rewards we deal with in the mountains.

When and Where?

Wednesday, Sep. 9th, 6:00 pm ' Location: UBC Campus @ Henry Angus Bldg, Room 435. Refer to this link for directions to this location:,n,n,n,n,y&bldg2Search=n&locat1=023&locat2=#showMapCampus.


  • 6:00pm: Brief introduction. Mark members from Signup list as 'Going.' These members stick around for remainder of meeting, dismiss those who were unable to be marked as 'Going.'
  • 6:15pm: Begin slideshow: basics of glacier school, what is it, risks of glaciated mountain travel, etc.
  • 6:30pm: Discuss logistics for weekend. Begin with instructor groups.
  • 6:40pm: Discuss car groups. Recommend that car groups remain consistent with instructor group if at all possible.
  • 6:50pm: Discuss food groups and tent groups.
  • 6:55pm: Prussik-cord purchasing ($10) for those who need them. Instructors facilitate migration to the Aviary with groups to begin Dry School.

Dry School (Mandatory!)

The dry school is mandatory, so if you don't show up to the dry school, you will lose your spot on the trip and someone on the waitlist will get the chance to learn about glaciers instead of you.

When and Where?

Wednesday, Sep. 9th, 7:00 pm Location: The Aviary/halls outside the Aviary in New SUB

What Happens at Dry School?

Dry School provides students with a hands-on, experiential environment to practice the technical skills taught at G1 in a comfortable indoor environment before moving to a mountain environment. Therefore, we will be practicing rope ascension and Z-pulley systems with facilitation by your group's instructors.


  • 7:00pm: Arrive at/outside the Aviary from pre-trip meeting location. Split into instructor groups and begin rotations. Rotations will cycle between the following: ascending ropes (the Aviary), Z-pulley systems (hallway outside the Aviary; 2 stations), and gear 'rental' and fitting (VOC Clubroom). Divide into 4 fairly equal number groups.
  • 7:30pm: Rotations switch.
  • 8:00pm: Rotations switch.
  • 8:30pm: Rotations switch.
  • 9:00pm: End final rotation. Clean up.

What do I Need to Bring to Dry School?

Glacier 1 students (and others wishing to practice crevasse rescue), please bring your harnesses, biners and prussiks (unless you're buying them at dry school). You will receive a copy of the info booklet, and are expected to have read it ahead of time.

IMPORTANT: Also bring your boots and crampons to ensure they are adjusted correctly if you have not done so previously or are unsure. You can ask questions that you have about your gear on the gear 'rental' and fitting rotation.

Participant sign up

Please use the sign up tool GS1, sign up tool GS2,

Instructor List


  1. Elliott Skierszkan (pending doing G2 first!)
  2. Fisal Elstone
  3. Caitlin Schneider (most likely)
  4. Cassandra Elphinstone
  5. Zack Wentz
  6. Tobias K
  7. Nicole Ong (tentative - if lacking instructors, I could potentially help out. One caveat is, I haven't been on many glaciers myself, i.e. I'm nowhere close to being an expert, but I do know the basics)
  8. Richard Shaw
  9. Annan Whiteford
  10. Julien Renard


  1. Nick Matwyuk (potentially)
  2. Richard Shaw
  3. Lara Thompson

Car Groups